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Comment from: Kebabbert [Visitor]
Regarding Media:

Here is a free MP3 driver. Just register and download:
http://lifewithsolaris.jp/

Or get it directly without registration:
http://zshare.net/download/154851988433e7bb/libgstflump3dec.so.gz





Here are some media players, latest VLC Player, mplayer (start with gmplayer on command line), etc:
http://lifewithsolaris.jp/





Here are some Solaris sound drivers. Dont know if they work with OpenSolaris:
http://www.opensound.com/
12/03/08 @ 14:49
Comment from: Dave Miner [Visitor] · http://blogs.sun.com/dminer
Fair comments, Sean. We still have much to do, we know. One note about codecs: shop.fluendo.com has MP3 for free, Windows audio and video for 16 euro.
12/03/08 @ 15:27
Comment from: Roman Strobl [Visitor] · http://blogs.sun.com/observatory
Hi, as for multimedia, look at:

http://lifewithsolaris.jp/

Also Adobe promised to release an x86 Solaris version of Adobe Reader during next year :)
12/04/08 @ 04:49
Comment from: Brian Leonard [Visitor] Email · http://blogs.sun.com/observatory
Hi Sean,

Nice review. With regards to multimedia, there's a great 3rd party repository you need to check out: http://lifewithsolaris.jp/.

Regards,
Brian
12/04/08 @ 18:43
Comment from: Andreas F. [Visitor] Email
on the topic of...
ntfs,etx2,fuse:
there is also a solution from the belenix developer(s?), fswmisc, fswpart.
fuse paniced for me even with read-only on a very large directory (my music library)
pkg-config is available in a gnome-devel-something package. search with 'pkg search -r'

3dgraphics: They are using x.org, so apart from fglrx 3d support should be on par; that's no big loss. I can't test though, I have an ati rv630; support is bad on every platform.

Multimedia:
Fluendo supplies a legal mp3 codec.
There is also lifewithsolaris.jp where you can get the videolan player and gstreamer packages. I sometimes use the little hack of setting GST_PLUGIN_PATH to /opt/LSW/lib . Try it ;)

on my personal plus side:
faster startup. I blame svc.
nice development packages: ss-dev ; gcc-dev

biggest gripes:
the packaged gcc 3.4 behhaves different than the gcc 3.4 on a slackware linux
printing: they still ship gimp-print...(2601)
bugs: 2585 3090
12/07/08 @ 11:11
Comment from: Jon Parshall [Visitor] · http://www.codeweavers.com
Hi Sean,

We have done a fair amount of work on Wine for Open Solaris, and it's not beyond the realm of possibility that we'll eventually offer a CrossOver product for that OS.

Best Wishes,

-jon parshall-
COO
www.codeweavers.com
12/09/08 @ 16:26
Comment from: svrocket [Visitor]
>> Marvell Yukon PCI-Express GB Ethernet Driver:

Umm yeah - most 32 and 64 bit Solaris Marvell drivers are available here from the manufacturer:

http://www.marvell.com/drivers/search.do


>> EXT2/EXT3 filesystem support (and NTFS)

under what circumstances do you need to natively mount these foreign filesystems within a running solaris O/S instance? Aren't these ext2/3 and NTFS filesystems coming from some other box on the network, n which case CIFS/SMB/NFS over the network was your method of accessing them anyway? I know if I was Windows 2003 I'd be quite pissy if I knew you were mounting my filesystems while I was fast asleep in my bed.

12/11/08 @ 00:43
Comment from: Tiyuk Quellmalz [Member]
svrocket: Some people dual boot, you know. Open your mind. I am not running OpenSolaris on a server; I am a desktop user, developer, and enthusiast.

I'm also a gamer. Ten years ago, I didn't even know what the words Linux, UNIX, or Solaris mean; I eagerly awaited my Christmas presents which were primarily composed of proprietary Windows games. I have always despised consoles for the locked-down nature of their platform; in the past six years of using FOSS, I have also come to despise running games on Windows. But when a new game comes out in a series of games that I've had a very fun time with, I just can't resist rebounding. Wine doesn't cut it most of the time, unfortunately.

I have three 500GB disks in my system. Many of them are formatted for NTFS, because until I got OpenSolaris, this was the only "common ground" journaling filesystem that works seamlessly between Windows and Linux. When I want to share data -- music, programs, whatever -- I need a filesystem that works on as many platforms as possible. With many thanks to ntfs-3g and its stability for both read and write, I've sort of assumed that NTFS is a given on any platform.

So no, no network communication is involved at all; and the reason I need it is because I don't feel like copying 20+ gigabytes of music from NTFS to ZFS.

Better?

Oh, and with respect to Marvell for trying to support Solaris, I have to admit that their support appears half-assed: people in the OpenSolaris forums report kernel panics on recent OSOL kernels, and besides that, any 64-bit support they may have was not available at the time I was researching this problem. I think the Free Software myk drivers are superior, because they worked flawlessly on my hardware, and 64-bit is supported without any further hassle. I personally would rather see myk supported out of the box than Marvell's drivers. But it's ultimately up to the OpenSolaris package maintainers which driver they want to use tosupport Yukon in (hopefully) the next release of OSOL.

-Sean
12/11/08 @ 10:35
Comment from: Tiyuk Quellmalz [Member]
Jon Parshall: Thanks for your interest in my blog. I'm a current Crossover Linux customer, and I do like the concept of Wine. Since writing this blog, I've gone back to using Fedora again, so I personally wouldn't urge you to rush to a CXOSOL (Crossover OpenSolaris) release. But if it's an easy compile, hey, it may be worth it. Just don't be too surprised when all the non-Nvidia customers whine that 3d games are unsupported.

On the other hand, I think the best way Crossover can attract attention is to continue those very pointed specific-application bundles. What I'm talking about is your Chromium port to Linux. You get so much PR, so much interest, so much success when you take an existing Windows-only application and bang on it until it runs very well under Linux. If you do something like that for OpenSolaris, it will be very useful for both your company and for OpenSolaris PR.

It's almost like guerilla warfare: your overarching strategy is to get wine working "in the general case" without really focusing on any particular app; but it can be very effective to surge forward into the next trench by making a significant application available, even if you have to pull a few developers for a week or two to work out the bugs and inconsistencies.
12/11/08 @ 10:42
Comment from: Tiyuk Quellmalz [Member]
Andreas, Brian, Roman, and Kebabbert: Thanks for the many links to lifewithsolaris.jp! It seems this is a rather popular place for media.

Unfortunately, my media collection contains MP4/AAC, MP3, Ogg/Vorbis, and FLAC files. To legally play all of these in the US, I have purchased the complete bundle from Fluendo. This works great on Linux, but I haven't found their bundle yet for OpenSolaris, only a few codecs like Windows Media which I don't use. I can only assume the rest is on its way soon.

The other, legally-questionable alternative is to compile gstreamer-plugins-ugly for OpenSolaris. This in theory should be doable on my own, but I simply didn't invest the time to get it working, due to the large number of dependencies that I'd have to go fetch first.

I'm now going to update the blog post containing my experiences with OSS4/CDDL, which I wanted to try for Wine sound support, since it appears that Csound is unsupported on Wine.

12/11/08 @ 10:46
Comment from: Jim Grisanzio [Visitor] · http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/
Sean ... thanks for giving OpenSolaris a try. Feedback, ideas, and suggestions are always very much welcome. :)
12/23/08 @ 07:56
Comment from: Milan Jurik [Visitor] · http://www.opensolaris.org
For gstreamer plugins, like gst-ffmpeg, one small recommendation. Because of some incompatibilities between Solaris ld and GNU ld, you should add "-mimpure-text" parameter to LDFLAGS. Then the most of plugins are easy to compile.

For Fluendo stack, I heard they are working on the rest of plugins (I bought those which they have already). They have MP3 and WM for now.

Btw. very nice blog entry.
12/23/08 @ 11:15
Comment from: Ché Kristo [Visitor] Email · http://kristo.mp
For the flash stuff you can get it from the 'extra' repository...see this post for more details on all the IPS repo's: http://synesius.wordpress.com/2008/12/22/getting-software-for-opensolaris/

For media playback I use VLC from lifewithsolaris.jp unfortuntely they are looking for clarification as to the legility of distributing such software out of Japan :(

Fluendo are working on fully licensed codecs and a DVD playback software for opensolaris also
12/23/08 @ 17:34
Comment from: python web developer [Visitor] · http://vizualbod.com
I jumped to OpenSolaris because it has svc and SMF (service management facility), which I personally find the way too cool. Self-healing of your web application is still very hard to implement on Linux and the init scripts really sucks. Solaris's SMF manages for me server processes and server heals itself whenever something goes wrong, even if I reboot. Reboot also takes just a few soconds. Canonical (Ubuntu) promised to catch-up with Upstart but their words are empty so far.
12/26/08 @ 10:59
Comment from: rick [Visitor]
"...Multimedia: The situation is bad..."

uhm ya, put it this way Win3.1, err even DOS sound drivers would still work on more cards than OpenSolaris supports.

Hello SUN, when the OS is installed let me atleast be able to play AND HEAR properly any of my Audio CD's, mp3's whatever. I don't care about FLUENDO or my Blender, fine but when 3 out of my 4 PC's have no OpenSolaris audio drivers that work well does FLUENDO even matter!

I said it years ago and I'll say it again, "...without the right DRIVER(S), your travellers' aren't GOING ANYWHERE..."

are you total idiots or just blind/deaf !!!

Welcome to the PC-World

Listen, if I can't hear it then do I wnat to even SEE IT !!!

holy crap, either get ALL the OpenSolaris sounds card drivers for every PC in the wotrld straightened out, OR, get the heck outta pretending you're offering anything better that pushing you're own warez !

this is the Comsumer/PC/Desktop world SUN and NOT your exclusive Golf-cart driver SERVER world!

thankyou.

R.
12/31/08 @ 15:52
Comment from: Gary Gendel [Visitor]
I'm hoping that project Boomer will provide some sound card relief. There is a binary package promised this month. It's a re-spin of OSS. I expect that it will properly handle quiescence to support fast reboot (and suspend to ram?).

I hope that Xfce will be supported again and as cleanly as it was under JDS. All my gnome apps were presented in the menus and worked flawlessly. It helped immensely on lower-resource machines.
01/13/09 @ 06:40
Comment from: Rick [Visitor]
-regarding my bad above:
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Comment from: rick [Visitor]
"...Multimedia: The situation is bad..."
....
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I was way to harsh, bad-mood-beer ? anyway, I was recently searchin' around for compiling fixes for my mplayer/vlc/... on my amd64 boxes, and I landed on my own "unconstructive" comment above :(

-btw, thanks for the article and experiences with THE "OS".(OpenSolaris).

As long as there's an Internet, OpenSolaris will stay around, the potential is truly there.

-I humbly feel all the "media" apps will be there eventually and will work better on OpenSolaris than they ever did. -a little time, patience and some hard work never hurt anyone.
;)

R.
02/24/09 @ 09:36

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